Posts by Nathan Natas

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Don't give them 2019

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

i am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.

it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.

those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.

Scary Experience

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

something weird and scary happened to us last nihgt.

we had a few friends over for the weekend.

we love to go hiking and long walks wherever and whenever we can.

I'm with DesirousOfChange on this; the only way to be safe in a situation like you encountered is to be sure that YOU are the most dangerous thing out there. If you aren't willing to do that perhaps a bracing tournament of checkers is your speed.

I would urge you to read up on the Zodiac killer if you are able to do so without fainting.

Another thought springs to mind: maybe those two guys were more frightened than you were; you could have called out loudly

"We are over here and we are totally unarmed! We are three women and two frightened old men! We mean you no harm! Have a good evening! Enjoy your nocturnal pursuits! Say,those are some nice knives you're carrying - will you show them to us?"

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Canada, Quebec: a lawsuit will soon begin against the Watchtower

by yalbmert99 in

yesterday, there was a court sitiing before the pedophilia lawsuit really starts in quebec(canada) on december 17-18, when it will be presented to the court for acceptance.

see article in french:.

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/actualites-judiciaires/201811/28/01-5205878-les-temoins-de-jehovah-defendent-leur-traitement-des-cas-dagressions-sexuelles.php.

Nathan Natas

The three legs of The Watchtower are Guilt, Shame and Anger.*

I just wanted to share that sound-byte before someone else says it first.

As you were...

* I could (maybe) expound on this - I could make it a one-hour Public Talk, like in the old days!

But who would be interested? What relevance would it have?

Hmmm... maybe... but more likely maybe not.

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Penny Marshall, dead at 75

by Nathan Natas in

from complications of diabetes.. "laverne & shirley" themesong.

Nathan Natas

from complications of diabetes.

"laverne & Shirley" themesong

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

Nathan Natas

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

Nathan Natas

days of future passed asked,

"They used to do , what were they called?"

I think the word you are looking for is resolutions, and they had the audacity to claim that these resolutions

("Be it hereby RESOLVED that we like peanut butter...")

were in FULFILLMENT OF END-TIMES PROPHECY!

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

Nathan Natas

THANKS, Snugglebunny, but I DID find it, in less than an hour!

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

Nathan Natas

So far, the ONLY advantage of getting OLD (I'll be 70 in the summer) is that I can remember things that happened before many of you were born. I hope my memory holds up for a few more years and I prove to be an ancient worthy of your appreciation. Then I will follow my fathers into dust, and the next OLD GUY will have to step up.

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

Nathan Natas

Ah! Here it is! (Page 283)

"Even when something is anticlimactic, at a large convention, it is made to feel, at least in

retrospect, climactic - as, for example, at Yankee Stadium in August, 1950, where the

Witnesses were reminded of the old belief that God’s faithful - Abraham, Joseph, David

- would rise from the dead before the end of the world. This aroused tremendous

expectations, which were heightened by the speaker, F. W. Franz, when he suggested

that among those gathered together were the "Princes of the New Earth."

The spectators were roused to tears by the prevailing excitement, expecting to see these

biblical figures. Some stood up; others rushed to the entrance near the speakers' stand,

where they would have a better view. The speaker quieted the crowd and then compared

the new Jehovah's Witnesses to those of old. In effect, he assured them that they were the

new princes, those who had turned their backs on a world slated for doom and who must

persevere in going forward to build the New Jerusalem.

Forward, indeed. This was, in fact, a denial of a previously cherished and defended

belief, couched so as to make conventioneers feel that something had been added unto,

not taken away from, them. David didn't pop out of the dugout, and Solomon didn't

surface on the speaking stand; but Franz had thrilled his audience nonetheless. (I myself

was irritated - though I applauded as fervently as anyone else; I had a distinct sense of

having been had, and I felt guilt as a consequence. And I wondered how many coronaries

Franz had occasioned by his initial provocative remarks. And from some of the

mutterings I heard as I left the Stadium that night, I I deduced that others were irritated

as well, though not, perhaps, as guilt-stricken as I was for allowing myself to feel vexed.)"

My point is that this happened 68 years ago in 1950. Franz was the Watchtower's "Wizard of OZ," hiding behind his cloak of sanctimony, he uttered bald-faced LIES to gullible true believers.

The Watchtower still LIES to the flock, but today's LIARS don't have the phony gravitas that adorned Franz.

Barbara Grizzuit Harrison is as special to me as RAY Franz (Freddy's nephew) is to many XJWs today. Barb's book came out as I was exiting the WTB&TS, and it gave me the encouragement of knowing I was doing the right thing, even though it was not easy. I had the opportunity to speak with BGH before she died and I thanked her for the help she had given me.

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This Is It?

by Nevuela in

i can't say much out of fear of getting caught, but i overheard a jw i know on the phone with a friend talking about "how close we are to the end.

" yeah, yeah, i know.

we've been on the brink of armageddon for well over a century, but what struck me about this particular instance was what she said next.

Nathan Natas

page 282:

"For those who remain Witnesses for ten, twenty, or thirty years - preoccupation with

Armageddon growing with the passing time - each year provides at least one occasion

for refreshment, one source of sweetness: the communal tenderness that is so lacking in

dreary local congregational meetings is at evidence at large conventions of Jehovah's

Witnesses, and particularly at international conventions."

I'm still looking for the thing I'm looking for...